Galatasaray Bests Schalke :: Fuji x100s Bests Leica

x100s

I’m currently on a 22 hour layover in Paris. I’m on my way home from Istanbul. I was sent there by FujiFilm to give the new x100s a run for its money. I am working on a full review of the camera but until I have that up I’ll be making a few posts with photos. 

I was having a beer at a pub a few nights ago and I heard an explosion of chants and cheers from around the corner. I had already been on the streets for about 10 hours that day and I was just trying to steal a moment of solitude and rest in the pint glass of a Guinness. The sounds I heard though made me grab my stuff (including said pint) and run to see what the deal was. The “deal” was football.

x100s

Galatasaray (Turkey) beat Schalke (Germany) that night and advanced to the quarter finals. What that means to non sports people like myself is that sh!t went crazy.

x100s

 

x100s

As all the fans poured out of every bar they were singing, and chanting, and lighting flares. I was caught in a mob of thousands of people and not once… not for a single frame… did I wish I had another camera with me. Not once did I curse my little x100s. It did what I needed it to do. In the middle of all of this it clicked in my brain.

Fuji is the new Leica.

I’ll talk more about that in the upcoming full review of the camera.

Cheers,

Zack




Discussion

  • Hendra said on March 15, 2013

    Can’t wait for the full review! Been checking your site twice day! :D

  • Chris M-S said on March 15, 2013

    Love the shots Zack, given the teaser’s you have dropped and the comments from Dave Hobby, sounds like FujiFilm have a winner on their hands.

  • Mazhar said on March 15, 2013

    Waow, as a GALATASARAY fan and x100 owner I am very excited to see this post from you. I can imagine how it feels after a GALATASARAY victory in Istanbul, it is one of the biggest celebrations ever :) ) I am jeolous of you that I wasnt there.

    As you didnt curse on your X100s in such a chaotic environment of jumping and cheering mob, I presume they solved that juirky autofocus :) Cant wait to see your review :)

    PS: I am not saying this only because I am from Turkey but after seeing many places all around the world, I can honestly say that Turkey is the one of the best countries that gives you the variety, colorfulness, action that you need photographically similar to what india feels like a heaven for photographers. I am happy that fuji chose Istanbul for such assignment.

    Best Regards.

  • wilfried feder said on March 15, 2013

    strong pictures! i guess that “limiting” ourselves with a prime lens forces us to move instead of zooming, in order to frame the frame. Maybe a lack of options just boosts creativity. Still i’d be afraid to spend that money and have only one fixed lens. Feel like i rather want the xPro1 with lens options. Well…looking forward to learning more about the x100s and how you make things happen with it.

  • wilfried feder said on March 15, 2013

    oh and please give us a comparison sometime, x100s vs xPro1 – if that makes any sense at all. Like for what kind of jobs you would choose which camera. probably need both of them =)

  • james robertson said on March 15, 2013

    “and not once… not for a single frame… did I wish I had another camera with me”

    It doesn’t really need a full review after that.

  • Clive Litchfield said on March 15, 2013

    Hey there Zack
    I for one do not need convincing, it’s great to get confirmation from YOU especially. I love my X100! Must save up the cash for it’s baby brother. It’s the first new camera that’s got me excited for a long time.
    Was in Instanbul a few years ago working so didn’t see much of the city I did sample the food however, wow it’s tasty! Turkish people are very friendly and helpful, mad about football (soccer.) Had a holiday further south in Side Turkey, again lovely people, fantastic scenery, bits of statues from way back in Roman and Greek times, strewn all over the place and and and, it’s great go there if you get the chance. Bye for now. Clive

  • Felipe Curvello Anciaes said on March 15, 2013

    Hi Zack!
    Nice to read these news!!
    Would you use this camera on a Wedding?!

  • Enrico Zack Zucchetto said on March 15, 2013

    Hi Zack,

    I absolutely love the second picture above, it captures magnificently the different feelings of the people watching the game … everyone with his own grins and expressions! I am a happy owner of an X100 since two years and have been undecided lately whether to buy the new Leica M or the new X100S … well, after reading your first impressions I have ordered the X100S and can’t wait to shoot with it!

    Keep up the good work,

    Enrico

  • Jason said on March 15, 2013

    why you make me want camera even more?! my X100 blog sure could use to be updated with a nice “S” on the end…

    vinsonimages.tumblr.com

  • Sten said on March 15, 2013

    Hi,

    did you use the normal AF for the images #1 and #4 or did you prefocus or manual focus?

    Thanks

  • Zack said on March 15, 2013

    @Sten – 1st shot locked focus via AF then shot a burst when Gala won. 2nd shot AF. Last two shots manual focus utilizing image peaking.

    Yes. Manual focusing is now awesome on the x100s!
    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Alex Atienza said on March 15, 2013

    “Fuji is the new Leica.” I can already here the Leica die-hards scream, “sacrilege!!!” :) I haven’t had any experience with Leicas but I’m loving the new Fuji X’s.

  • Chris said on March 15, 2013

    Looks like a good night! Have a few Guinness did you?

  • Patrick said on March 15, 2013

    I so totally agree with you Zack. In the sense that Leica ignited the ability to be there and shoot, to have this small machine in your hands that made you invisible and gave you the power to capture what was there, in your eye and in your mind. Before it forgot its purpose and became jewelry for the rich.

    Fujifilm sent me an X100S earlier this week and man… It’s insane isn’t it? It’s what i dreamed the X100 would be and sorta was…. But wasn’t. As much as I love the X100 and X-Pro1, this is the potential of the X cameras realized.

    Look forward to your images. Damn… I wished they’d sent me around the world too ;)

  • Zack said on March 15, 2013

    @Patrick – Very well said.

    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Laurence Zankowski said on March 15, 2013

    Zack,

    I am not here to blow smoke up your butt… Just want these answered

    1. Jpeg or raw…
    2. No post fiddling, straight from camera to posting here?

    Be well

    Laurence

  • Zack said on March 15, 2013

    @Laurence – Jpg. Bar scenes slightly adjusted for color. Flares images straight from camera minus an Apple logo on a phone that bugged me. Banner shot slightly tweaked for contrast.

    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Laurence Zankowski said on March 15, 2013

    Zack,

    Twice this week I have been stunned by images coming off Fuji sensors, here and Yomadic’s Serbian shots. All jpegs. If this is what a x100s can do, the looming x-pro-2 will cause a flood of used dslrs. Which btw might be a great deal to mod one for IR.

    Be well
    Safe journey home
    Laurence

  • Marcie Runnells said on March 15, 2013

    SWEET! I have been looking into one of these. :-)

  • Arnold Ramirez said on March 15, 2013

    Zack that is great to hear i cant wait for your full review, its because of your review on the x100 that got me pumped to get one and i love that little thing. Seems as though i will have to get the x100s as well thanks for everything you do.

    Arnold

  • Umar Ali said on March 15, 2013

    Would an X100 (with the latest firmware) have struggled to autofocus in these lighting conditions? Do you think you would have missed some of these shots (because of the AF) if you had an X100 with you instead of the X100S?

  • brandon s warren said on March 15, 2013

    Being a futbol fan here in the states and a fuji x100 owner – I love the title of this post! Go Zack , cant wait for the report!

    Cheers!

  • Kevin said on March 15, 2013

    God damn it!

    I sold a 17-40mm L 18 months ago to fund an x100 on the strength of your review alone. I freckin love(d) that camera but now it’s up for sale after reading all the recent reviews of the ‘s’. My local store won’t have any stock for a week or two…..going to be a long wait!

  • Karim Arsad said on March 15, 2013

    Hi Zack, you are in Paris? Too bad I read this so late, would have loved to have a beer or two with you and chat photo (or even make some).
    Enjoy your stay and have a save flight back home to Atlanta.

    Karim

  • Bashar said on March 16, 2013

    Finally a real reviewer with photos full of passion, getting really tird of those so called photography experts reviewing everything left and right for google ads, we love you Zack

  • david Holliday said on March 16, 2013

    I love the sound of this camera despite having an x10 and an X-E1. Think I will buying it. I read some leica 240 reviews and just wanted to buy the X100S but I need X1100$

  • jeremy said on March 16, 2013

    I’m really looking forward to your review.

    Especially because, In january I sold my x100 and put it towards a Leica ME. After 2 months use, I really miss the x100, in fact I’ve put my name on the waiting list for the X100s and the Leica’s been returned. The X100s really will be my new Leica!

  • David Charles said on March 16, 2013

    Well, dammit…I really love my X100 but the new focus improvements seem amazing. I went from the 5DII to 5DIII because of focus and it was plenty worth it. And now this. My girlfriend is going to kill me…

  • Richard May said on March 16, 2013

    I’ve been waiting for Fuji’s next iteration of its X system. My current kit is in need of some updates and I’ve been waiting to see what Fuji does. I’m psyched about this camera… it bodes well for the pro bodies. I’m glad I waited!

  • DTB said on March 16, 2013

    Great preview and fantastic images. It is very exciting to see that Fuji is now matching its exceptional image quality and design with excellent performance. I have been waiting for about a year now to get an X-Series camera to replace my clunky, ugly DSLR, but I am still waiting for the new sensor and features in the X100s to be introduced in an interchangeable lens camera (upgrade or replacement for the X-Pro 1/X-E1). Hopefully, Fuji introduces those upgrades soon. Although you perhaps would not tell us, but it is worth asking: Did you hear anything about Fuji introducing an X-Pro2 or X-E2 with these features in the near future?

  • Jon said on March 16, 2013

    Zack, these are wonderful images! Assuming these are (very) high ISO, they look simply incredible. And to think JPEGs look this good (nearly) straight from the camera…WOW! Love the skin tones and smooth transitions. I am really curious to see how you compare this to the X100 and also how this “X-Trans CMOS II” sensor compares to the “X-Trans CMOS” sensor in the X-Pro1. I wonder if there is any difference in the way it renders an image compared to the first generation sensor.

    My X100, just back yesterday from Fujifilm, having suffered the SAB problem, may go up for sale soon. I love it, but the improvements they have made in the “S” may prove to hard to pass up. I look forward to your upcoming commentary, but as others have said, what you have said so far is all that many of us need to hear.

    Jon

  • nicholas gonzalez said on March 16, 2013

    WOW. In the words of Vincent fro Pulp Fiction: “That’s a bold statement.” Looking forward to the full review.

  • Daniel said on March 17, 2013

    Great photos, you’ve really captured the collective feeling of euphoria you get from being a football fan after a big win. I’m tempted to sell my summicron r 35mm to largely fund the x100s especially now that Lightroom has got a handle on the RAW files of the x-trans sensor.

  • Peter said on March 17, 2013

    Hi Zack,

    yesterday I was very enthusiastic about the new X100s and I wrote: WOW! They got it!

    Hmmm, after three days of using it I´m not so sure any more. Yep, the new features are superior. The camera is fast, very fast, and very responsive. The menu is better. AF is very fast and great. Almost everything works better than before… OK, the new EVF is still worlds apart from the OM-D EVF. But that´s OK for me. Thought, if you have a closer look on it you may think that the devil is in the detail. And that´s exactly the point, literally spoken: where the heck the details have gone?
    The new X-Trans sensor is really tricky. On paper it should have a better color rendition, a better high iso performance and better details due to the lack of an AA filter. Unfortunately I can´t see these improvements! The pictures lack of sharpness (and I´m not a pixel peeper!), details and crispness in comparison to the old X100 oder my OM-D oder Nikon. That´s really visible! And you can´t sharpen it in the ‘traditional’ way because then you will see that terrible watercolor effect, e.g. on almost equally shaded areas like faces. Even with Lightroom 4.4! I needed quite a lot of time to figure out a setting in Lightroom to get results let´s say more or less as good as with a Bayer sensor camera. You get some more or less decent results with setting clearance higher and so on… Other raw converters didn´t do the job much better and are – as you would say – a pain in the ass to work with ;-)

    Let´s go to the jpg engine. I have no idea why so many people are raving about the Fuji jpgs. I don´t like them at all. For my taste they are oversaturated (especially in the red channel) and again: where are the details? The files look nice and clean at first view. Even at higher iso settings. But the price is an incredible loss of details. And that´s exactly the opposite we were promised by Fuji. And again: it´s visible not only on a screen at 100% magnification! It´s there and I´ve seen it on the first pictures immediately.

    That´s all not a problem for pictures on the web with a 800×600 pixel resolution or for smaller prints. There´s no way to see there any difference at all. But I wonder if there won´t be some problems when trying to make some larger prints on fine art paper. With the original X100 or other cameras with Bayer sensors I didn´t have problems to do that. So I really hope that my first impression is wrong! Because I would like to love this little camera as I really loved the X100. And I´m curious about your first impressions after having used the X100s for a wihle.

    Cheers,
    Peter

  • DTB said on March 18, 2013

    Peter,

    I am convinced that people will not be 100% satisfied with the RAW files from the X-Series cameras until Fuji provides its own RAW conversion software or in-camera TIFF, as they are the only ones with the precise algorithm needed to accurately convert the files. That is, however, not just an issue related to Fuji. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) does not accurately convert my Canon RAW files: the colours are not accurate, the tonal range is different than the original file (evident in comparing the in-camera histogram to that in ACR), and I have even noticed minor details missing or faded in ACR. And, I have heard that is true for cameras from other camera makers such as Nikon…Recently, I realized that Canon’s Digital Photo Professional (DPP) does a far better job for the conversion than ACR, so I convert the files in DPP, save as a 16-bit TIFF, and edit the photos in ACR/Photoshop.

    Until Fuji provides either its own RAW conversion software or in-camera TIFF, I recommend that you find the most accurate converter, whichever it is (Silkypix, Capture One, etc), save the files as 16-bit TIFF, and then edit the photo in Lightroom/Photoshop. Unfortunately, I doubt any of them will be perfect, as I am sure they do not know the precise algorithm needed to accurately convert the files. However, from the reviews online, it appears that ACR is one of the worst, even with version 4.4, or whatever it is called ~ the images are much softer and lack sufficient details.

    Good luck! It will be great when these issues are resolved, as the X-Series cameras are the only really exciting cameras that have come out in a while, and I want to get a next-generation X-Series interchangeable lens camera with the features and sensor in the X100s. Hopefully, they introduce them this summer!

  • Pierre Claquin said on March 18, 2013

    Great pictures of a warm ambiance. These days I use an X100 with the lens add-on to make it a 28mm. Excellent results.
    Cheers

  • Thomas said on March 18, 2013

    Hey Zack,

    I can’t wait to read your review – you made me jump into the X100. Please don’t forget to comment also on the improvements made to the battery management/battery compartment because I’ve been having some really frustrating issues on the X100.

    Thank you!

    Thomas

  • Simon said on March 18, 2013

    “yesterday I was very enthusiastic about the new X100s and I wrote: WOW! They got it!”
    You were probably drunk… =P

    No, honestly. How about showing the detail issue in a x100/x100s comparison?
    I think the pictures you took look great but then again, the resolution is pretty low.

  • Blur My Reality said on March 18, 2013

    Great shots, Turkish supporters are crazy! Can’t wait to try X100s myself – the price in my country is very high, but it seems to be a nice camera.

  • Urbanshoot said on March 18, 2013

    @Peter

    Hello Peter,

    First of all thanks for sharing your findings with us.
    Now back to your points concerning the X-TRANS sensor…my question will be as it is the same sensor than the X-PRO1 and the XE-1, I’m wondering why this will be differents for those as well and never heard such a issue with those cam ?

    So it would mean that the X-TRANS sensor is not the same on the X1OOs then ?

    Urban./

  • Ferry said on March 18, 2013

    Hi zack,

    Nice Review, Im still thinking about the X-E1 with the 35mm

    BTW Shouldn’t it be Beats iso Bests

    greats

    Ferry

  • Peter W said on March 18, 2013

    Nice! I just received my X100S at the weekend, and can’t wait to put it through it’s paces properly. Your shots reminded me of the time I was in Cairo when Egypt won the African Cup – alas, I was very new to photography at that point…oh for a time machine!

  • Peter said on March 18, 2013

    @ DTB

    I agree with your statements to different raw converters and the processing of raw files from different cameras. But it never was a problem for me. I know that the colors of Nikon files are slightly better being processed by Capture NX. But for me the difference never was worth to do it because otherwise I find Lightroom much better to use. My point was not a slight difference of something like colors but a huge problem of a sensor to handle (some) pictures. The last days I got some pictures out of the X100s which were definitely almost unusable. Unusable with Lightroom and really ugly as sooc jpgs to say the least.

    But I think I have to modify my first impressions. Some (few) of the pictures are terrible, most of them are quite good or even stunning. Today I made a short stroll after work around my home and all pictures are very good. Not the pictures of course but the image quality ;-) At the moment I have no real idea what the problem with some of the pictures is. It seems to be a combination of light and structure (especially if there are few structure details) that is not easy to handle for the sensor or the image processing… and it´s not only a problem with the external raw converter. The sooc jpgs are OK and don´t have these terrible artefacts, but totally lack of details. And I don´t mean with this statement that I can´t find a fly sitting on a flower in a landscape image ;-) It is even difficult to see the difference between a jeans and a corduroys!
    Maybe I will figure out what the problem is in the next weeks… so far I will try to be happy with the positive things the camera has to offer. Because imho you are totally right: the Fujis are the most exciting and inspiring cameras for photographers. Period.

    @ Simon
    I was not drunk BEFORE using the camera ;-) But I needed a beer after viewing some of the images

    @ Urban
    Nobody knows except Fuji… i guess it´s almost the same sensor as in the other two X-Trans cameras, added by some phase detection pixels and maybe modified a little bit. But it should be the same X-Trans pattern. And by the way: there are of course many reports on some issues with the X-Trans sensor regarding the image processing. It´s absolutely not trivial to demosaic such a pattern and I´m not sure if even Fuji is able to do this in the right way. I´m still not convinced that the X-Trans sensor is the right way to go…

  • Sten said on March 19, 2013

    Hi Zack,

    one question comes to my mind, which might be interesting to check with your contacts at Fuji:

    The X100 and X-Pro1 have an LCD-EVF with around 1.4MP, the X-E1 and X100s an LCD-EVF with 2.4 MP. So none of them have an OLED viewfinder as far as I could research it.

    I would be interested to know, why Fuji uses LCD-EVF instead of OLED and what the refresh rate of those viewfinders are. Are there differences between X100 and X100s or betweens X100s and X-E1/X-pro1?

    What are the exact numbers for each model for the refresh rate?

    I just do not find information about this on the net and the refresh rate is important for the “feeling” while using the EVF.

    Thanks

  • Chris said on March 19, 2013

    Hi Zack,

    I stumbled upon your blog – and photography – as a consequence of searching for opinions on fuji cameras. Especially the X100S.

    I liked your attitude as well ass the images. Some great photography.

    In this commentary you speak glowingly of the X100S and – the most intriguing thing to me – state you would have wished for no other camera. As many – I expect – will have asked before me: is this view restricted to Photo Journalism? Or “street” photography? I ask since a video I enjoyed of you stated categorically that you could not go back to clipped sensors from full frame. Was this comment made strictly in regard to editorial photography/commercial studio work?

    Sometimes questions can sound snarky online – I am not trying to start a format debate! I am interested if your opinion has altered or if the context was the reason for the seeming change.

    All the best – thanks for sharing so many images and thoughts.

  • Kelly Garren said on March 19, 2013

    I echo Chris’s comment. The Fujifilm X100 was the first camera that ever got me interested in photography. I saw that camera in a magazine and was like, “O…M…G…I need that IN my life, like right now!” Seeing as I didn’t have a job at the time it wasn’t an option. Over time though I saved my money and got an X10. Turns out I LOVE photography! I started to save my money again for a bigger and better camera. I had settled on the Canon 7D, but then I saw some dad at the apple orchard taking pictures of his kids with this big enormous DSLR and I thought, “oh no, is that what I’m going to look like???” So I decided it was a no go. Then they had a massive price drop in the X-Pro and I bought it. I love the camera. I love the images it produces. I love how everyone asks me what kind of camera it is I’m shooting with. I love that I can crop 75% and still get an image that wows.

    With that said I STILL long for the X100. It LOOKS awesome. I mean, really, It’s a stunning looking camera and I adore the silver and black. It’s smaller and discreet and simple and produces top notch images. Part of the thing that makes it so darn sexy is its fixed lens, but that’s my one and only major concern. I don’t do this for a job, I have had the 35mm, the zoom and the 60mm for the xpro.

    I enjoy fine art photography and portrait photography, but I mostly just document life. I’ve never done street photography, but I’ve contemplated getting into it. There’s been several times when wanting to take a photo of my son the X-Pro is just a tad too slow. Because of that, and because of the ridiculous nastalgia that I have towards the X100S, I’m contemplating selling it to fund it. I can’t really afford to have more than one camera at a time…

  • Max Almonte said on March 19, 2013

    Do I smell a new Sponsor Zack. You been ranting about fuji’s 100′s for a while and you said “am not promoting their camera”. What about now Zack. What about Now? Love the review and shots with the new 100s, can’t wait to see more.

  • Zack said on March 20, 2013

    @Max – I’m hired by Fuji to talk about my experience with their cameras at events or to go shoot with them like I just did in Istanbul. Once I deliver my images to them I have no further obligations to them. It’s like a regular advertising job in many ways. I have no contract with them. I don’t sign NDA’s. I have no knowledge of future cameras coming down the pipe. What I say is because I really do love their cameras like no other cameras I own! :)

    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Mike Myers said on March 20, 2013

    I wanted to buy the X100 when I first read about it, but I was leaving for India, and never got to see one – until I found them for sale in Coimbatore. The guys at the store didn’t know how to use it, and didn’t believe me when I said the viewfinder was supposed to switch between digital and optical – and I didn’t know how – but they found someone who knew a bit more about it. The price in India was quite high. Then I came back to the US, only to read about the new Fuji cameras with interchangeable lenses.

    I went to B&H in NYC prepared to buy one, but the X-Pro1 just didn’t “feel right” to me. I’m sure it’s a lovely camera, but I was caught between thinking that the X100 wasn’t “as good”, but with me not wanting the X-Pro1, I went home empty handed.

    I spend a lot of time in South India, just hanging out, taking photos of the local scene, and people. I’ve got big Nikon DSLR cameras, that stand out WAY too much – they make everything seem “big time”, and nobody acts naturally. I’ve got a Leica M8.2, which should be just fine for me, but I enjoyed Leicas more when they were just ordinary cameras, and didn’t cost more than a small car. If anything happened to it, I couldn’t afford to replace it. So, I usually use a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5 which does a great job of what I want, or my much smaller Canon S95 that doesn’t do quite as well, but is really tiny by comparison. For the things I need to do, the X100 should be as good as it gets, and the new model seems to be the original design, but perfected.

    I’m not worried about the lack of a telephoto lens – I can always use another camera for shooting the things that I’d need a telephoto for. I’m much more concerned with the lack of a wide angle lens though, but Fuji does make a wider-angle converter lens I might be able to use…. but I wish it had wider coverage.

    Everything about photography is a compromise to me – there is no perfect camera, with the camera really being just a “tool”, and there is no such thing as a universal, perfect “tool”. From what you guys have written, with one exception, the X100s seems to be the perfect camera for me to buy in a few weeks when it’s available, and to take with me to India later this year. My only concern is image quality – if there really is a problem with the camera/lens/sensor/whatever not being able to capture good image quality, game over…. at least for me. I’ll check back here to see what you guys have decided.

  • Peter said on March 20, 2013

    @ Mike

    As I was the ‘exception’ I will keep it simple ;-)

    - image quality is generally no problem (as it is no problem with any modern camera) because it´s much better than what photographers have had for the last decades anyway
    - I was complaining about some special issues with image processing of X-Trans raw files
    - I am not completely happy with the decision of Fuji to use the X-Trans sensor for the X100s
    - I don´t like the sooc jpgs (many other photographers do)

    If you like a let´s say ‘old school style’ of photography you will get with the X100s an incredible tool which is at once discreet, quiet, fast, intuitive, portable,… like imho no other camera in the world. It is unique as the X100 was. If you don´t like this style of photography you will not like the camera. That´s all!

    I loved the X100 and I´m sure I will love the X100s even more. But love is sometimes… difficult ;-)

  • Robert said on March 20, 2013

    Hey Zack! I’ll be honest. You don’t need to make a full review of the X100S. The images you’ve taken speaks for itself! I have the X-E1 and seeing what you have taken in action is challenging for the X-E1. Enough…I want to be the happiest person on the planet! I am getting a X100S.

  • Mike Myers said on March 21, 2013

    Thanks for the additional information. Two quick questions.

    First, regarding the “image processing of X-Trans raw files”, is it likely that the average person will be disappointed if they simply use Adobe Photoshop and/or Lightroom to load up and process the images from the X100s?

    Second, I knew this before I ever bought my Leica M8.2, but the ‘jpg engine’ is terrible. To me, it’s like taking all the potential quality from using such good equipment, and throwing it away. So, unlike my Nikons, the Leica images now get taken in DNG format, viewed using “Fastone Photo Viewer” (as I can’t get Windows Photo Viewer to do so using Vista 32-bit in my laptop), and edited in Photoshop.

    I know all the reasons for using raw files, but when I’m overseas, taking a lot of images to give away, I almost always end up using ‘jpg’ (unless it’s a special image).

    So, with this X100s, how good do the images look when shot in ‘jpg’? (I’ve looked at the DPReview sample images from the pre-production camera they tested, and they mostly look fine to me, but I’d like your opinion. I think you’re saying that many people like them, but that you’re not satisfied?

    (If the images look as good as what I can get from my Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5 with the Leica lens, my own concerns are over with. If they’re that good, or better, I’m satisfied.)

  • Tim said on March 21, 2013

    The photos I’ve seen (just on the Web) from the X100, and now the S, always seem to be just a little “milky,” like a touch of low contrast has been added. Is that due to the Fuji jpg algo, or something else?

  • Zack said on March 21, 2013

    @Tim – Fuji has a look. That’s for sure. But it’s a baseline that you can then tweak as you please in post. It’s the same with any camera on the market today. Each has a characteristic. Some love it. Some tweak it.

    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Urbanshoot said on March 21, 2013

    Hi all,

    I’m wondering why so many people are worrying about the IQ on the new X100s ???

    Is it the same sensor than the one that is in the XPRO-1 and XE-1……and we already see that those cameras could delivers stunning image quality…

    So what are the missing points here….. ??

    Am I missing a important information concerning the new sensor on the X100s ??

  • Roman said on March 21, 2013

    I am quite dissapointed to read (from Peter on March 17) there might be some problems with the images from X100s (as I have already sold my X100 and am on a waiting list for the new “S”.
    Please let me (us) know, Zack, what´s wrong…or where are the quality problems Peter is describing, thank You a lot.

  • Zack said on March 21, 2013

    @Roman – I don’t have any issues with image quality from the x100s. My upcoming review will show that.

    Cheers,
    Zack

  • Peter said on March 21, 2013

    Oh dear, I´ve started a discussion I never wanted… :-(

    My last attempt to stop it: I was complaining on a high comfort level! A very high level… my only point was that I don´t see any reason for the X-Trans sensor. In theory it might be an interesting approach but in real life I don´t see any advantage over the conventional Bayer sensor. It´s just a different color filter array in front of an ordinary CMOS sensor which causes in MY opinion much more problems than giving us improvements. You will get EXACTLY the same IQ with traditional sensors. It´s just marketing and normally I´m fine with that. Companies are in a strong competition and have to do things like this. But I would have preferred to keep it simple.

    Now we (especially I) should stop discussing sensor technology, leave the house, search for the magic of light and think about how to improve the own photographic skills ;-)

    Cheers,
    Peter

    @ Mike
    As good as LX-5? You are just kidding, aren´t you?

  • numbeos said on March 21, 2013

    Zack, I hope you had a great time during your stay in Istanbul :) Just wondering if you had a chance of meeting with some fellow photographers here in Turkey?
    Cheers,
    murat

  • Max Almonte said on March 21, 2013

    “@Max – I’m hired by Fuji to talk about my experience with their cameras at events or to go shoot with them like I just did in Istanbul. Once I deliver my images to them I have no further obligations to them. It’s like a regular advertising job in many ways. I have no contract with them. I don’t sign NDA’s. I have no knowledge of future cameras coming down the pipe. What I say is because I really do love their cameras like no other cameras I own! ”

    I would kill to have an experience like that! Shoot a camera that you love in another side of the world. Awesome Experience. After Istanbul, What will be your next stop with the camera?

  • kellyadams photography said on March 22, 2013

    Such a great photography and I love it. Waiting for your review on camera. Cheers.

  • Sten said on March 22, 2013

    Hi Zack,

    I check this blog around 4x a day. I am cracking! When do you expect to publish your X100s review?

    I need to make a buying/upgrade decision before prices fall to much of my X100…

  • Roman said on March 22, 2013

  • sten said on March 22, 2013

    @Roman

    the comparison shots of Steve Huff are crap. Wrong focus and different shutterspeeds. Look at the Exif Data. The X100s shoe shot was done with 1/200s, the RX1 shot with 1/200s, the Leica Mshot with 1/1000s. In case teher was wind, the whole comparison was worthless just because of this.

    Secondly the focus is wrong. Look at the wood. The AF is is different on all 3 shots. So if you change the plane of field with teh AF, no wonder you get different sharp areas and different results.

  • Peter said on March 22, 2013

    @ Roman

    ‘Interesting’ is the right word ;-)
    It´s a completely worthless comparison due to useless examples… It´s quite easy to blame the ‘softness’ of a lens if the shoe on the picture is not in focus anyway :-)

    Cheers,
    Peter

  • Oleg Ruvinsky said on March 22, 2013

    First , it’s so refreshing hearing an american referring to football as football and not soccer :)
    Second , how the hell am i gonna explain to my wife why i am buying a camera that looks exactly
    like the one i already own ?

  • Peter said on March 22, 2013

    @ Urban

    “Am I missing a important information concerning the new sensor on the X100s ??”

    Maybe yes, namely the same information I didn’t think about. The X100s may use the same X-Trans filter array as the other cameras, but you get 14 bit raw files opposed to the 12 bit files from the X-Pro1 or the X-E1. That’s probably the devils detail I was searching for, because after one week of use I’m still disappointed with some of the pictures I got from Lightroom. They are definetely soft, too soft and extremely difficult to sharpen. Lightroom 4.4 is able to read the files (Capture one is not!), but I’m pretty sure not in the right way. This really could explain the differences…

    Cheers,
    Peter

  • Roman said on March 22, 2013

    Peter, thumb up, this could be the point!

  • David Pullum said on March 22, 2013

    Great review, thanks. I ordered one on the back of this and cant wait to get using it. Ummed and ahhed over the original to save some money but then read this and some other reviews and decided it would be money well spent

  • Urbanshoot said on March 22, 2013

    @Peter

    Thanks man yes that could be the trick !

    But I’ve chat with others people that told me that they didn’t have any issue with the new LR 4.4.

    Anyway mines it’s arrived today at my shop and I will pick up tomorrow morning…and I’m sure that I will not regret it’s BIG brothers (5DMII) that was staying most of the time in the shelf…due to its size…ok you can call me “Lazy” guys :-)

    And again thanks a lot for your constuctive remarks

  • Jon said on March 22, 2013

    @Urban, @Peter

    Since Fuji lists the X100s as having the “X-Trans CMOS II” sensor (that’s “II” as in 2nd generation), I suspect it is not exactly the same as the XE-1 and X-Pro1 sensor…but maybe that has less to do with the image quality it renders and more to do with the phase detection that was added.

    Not quite ready to part with my X100…

    Jon

  • Mike Myers said on March 23, 2013

    Peter, you wrote:

    @ Mike
    As good as LX-5? You are just kidding, aren´t you?

    I might well be wrong, but I wasn’t kidding. Maybe I just happened to get an exceptionally good one, but the images from my Lumix DMC-LX5 have been outstanding. When I use it overseas, the photographers at the hospitals I spend time at love it.

    I don’t know what to expect from the X100s, but I’ve been very satisfied with the Lumix and the Leica lens (which is a zoom, so I never expected it to be as good as it has been).

    If the X100s is that good, I will be happy. If the X100s is even better, great!!!

    There may be a slight delay for me though – nobody seems to know when the X100s cameras will be available, and someone from a website I participate in is selling an X100, and I figured I should buy it now, and take the pressure off when I get the “s”. As long as I get the “s” before I leave for overseas, all is fine – and the older one could always be a backup camera, “just in case”.

    Some of these discussions are going way over my head lately. What I’ve always told people is that the camera is just a box, with a hole at one end for a lens, and a place to record the image at the other
    end. Everything else may be nice, but is just “gravy”. The more I read about the X100s, the more I want one, but not for technical reasons. I like what I’ve read about how Fuji has made the camera easier to use, and “more logical” in the controls. I liked what I remember Ken Rockwell saying, that the camera should just get out of the way, and make it easy for photographers to capture the images they want to photograph. I’ll be very happy if it works out as I expect…..

  • Peter said on March 23, 2013

    @ Mike

    I’ve owned the LX-5 before the X100 was introduced… A nice little camera I really liked to take with me everywhere. But the X100(s) is playing in a completely different league…

    Peter

  • Peter said on March 23, 2013

    @ Urban

    After the weekend I will send you two examples and I’ll bet you will not trust your eyes!

    Peter

  • Robert said on March 24, 2013

    No room in the bar for Pentax? Aww…

  • Zack said on March 24, 2013

    @Robert – I just figured out where Pentax was. I’ll add it to the post soon. :)

  • Mike Myers said on March 24, 2013

    If any of you guys had to guess when the X100 will become available, are we likely talking sometime in April, May, or ?? I’ve got a used X100 on the way from someone I know on the Sportsshooter.com web forums, and also have an X100s ordered on waiting lists. Since I’ll be spending half a year half way around the world later this year, I figure it might be nice to have a backup camera, so I’ll probably keep both.

    From what I’ve read above, it seems like there are a huge number of “convenience” improvements in the X100s, but the single biggest change is a greatly improved focusing system. Everything else being equal, are the images from each camera close to being the same? Lastly, has anyone tried to use the X100s for infrared photography? I assume it has a built in filter to block infrared, but with the optical viewfinder, if one accepts the long exposures, how well might this work?

  • Zack said on March 24, 2013

    @Mike – good idea on keeping both. Haven’t tried nor heard of IR with the x100.

  • Peter said on March 24, 2013

    Zack,

    I know you take me for a pixel peeper but what would you have thought viewing this one hour after buying the camera?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/batian2011/8586401595/sizes/h/in/photostream/

    It´s just a stupid picture of my table where some pictures and books were laying on. It was raining and I was just playing with the new camera. Then I recognized some strange and incredibly soft pictures and put the two cameras on a tripod to compare it. Both pictures (OM-D on the left, X100S on the right, a screenshot with just 50% magnification) at f 2.8, 1/60s, low ISO… both raw files and opened in Lightroom 4.4 with standard settings. The focus point was set to the face of the left girl. Please look at the girl´s dress. Sorry, but I became nervous a little bit! First I thought it´s due to the swallower DOF of the X100s, but even the face, the hair… no details…

    By the way, that´s the pixel porn at 100% ;-)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/batian2011/8587597390/sizes/h/in/photostream/

    And I have three or four examples like this. Most of the other pictures are as great as the camera is…

    Peter

  • Peter said on March 25, 2013

    Zack,

    please forget my former postings… I´m as stupid as a human being can be. It IS the shallow DOF combined with the fact that the actual focus point is more in the upper than the lower part of the green focus field in the EVF, even in its smallest size. That´s all… and nothing else. Sorry for the confusion…

    Peter

  • Mike Myers said on March 31, 2013

    The X100 arrived, and I spent all last night trying things, and learning the settings. I got to use it today, and when I do my part right, the images are incredible, much nicer than I had hoped for. I will post some tomorrow.

    I need to learn how to open the raw images in Photoshop CS5, if that can be done.
    I need to enlarge the rectangular focus spot, if I can (too picky right now).
    I need to learn to put that rectangle right over what I want the camera to focus on.
    I need to decide very soon what to do about the order I’ve placed for the X100s (cancel, or keep).
    I need to find a good forum discussion place, where I can ask these questions.

    Thanks for all your advice!

  • Mike Myers said on April 1, 2013

  • Dan Speicher said on April 5, 2013

    Love the last image of the post. is it a Leica, who knows. I havent used one, and while I have played with an M9, there are certainly plenty of issues with it. But when it works it works. I think the biggest issue is that there isnt anything standard with bodies yet. If im shooting two bodies I need things to be in the same place so Im not fumbling around trying to figure out how to change ISO on the fly, or wondering where my AF button is. Once they standardize that, It will be killer for sure.

  • vidyaputra said on May 1, 2013

    FUJI is the new LEICA… great closing hahaa…

  • Web-Betty said on May 23, 2013

    I haven’t read a review I’ve enjoyed this much in years. FANTASTIC!

  • Ivan Boden said on May 24, 2013

    Wow. Wow. Wow. Your photos are FANTASTIC! Love this blog post. I want a Fuji x100s right now!

  • Rich E. said on August 4, 2013

    “What that means to non sports people like myself is that sh!t went crazy.”

    LMAO.




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